CHAPTER 1 - NEW PROOF OF MESSIAH
Is The Overriding Name For The Children Of Israel The "Sons Of Isaac"?
You wrote,
Another of these promises was that these descendants of Abraham would be called the sons of Isaac:
"And 'God' said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called." (Gen. 27: 12)
Even though Sarah was barren and was in her old age, the Great CREATOR intervened and she gave birth to a son and named him Isaac, (Gen. 21:2-3). Isaac had two sons, Esau and Jacob. The birthright of Isaac was passed to Jacob (Gen. 25:24-33). Jacob's name was changed to Israel, (Gen. 35:10). Thus all the sons that Israel (Jacob) had became known as the "sons of Israel," and the resulting nation became the nation of Israel. Yet the overriding name would still be the "sons of Isaac."
Why do you say that the overriding name would be "sons of Isaac"? Does Genesis 21:12 use the phrase "sons of Isaac"? Does the phrase "for in Isaac shall thy seed be called" mean "sons of Isaac" or does it mean something else?
Genesis 21:12-13 reads,
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God said to Abraham, "Don’t let it be grievous in your sight because of the boy, and because of your handmaid. In all that Sarah says to you, listen to her voice. For from Isaac will your seed be called. 21:13Also of the son of the handmaid will I make a nation, because he is your seed."Doesn't Yahweh himself clarify what he means by the phrase "for from Isaac will your seed be called"? Doesn't he say, immediately after these comments, "also of the son of the handmaid will I make a nation"? Doesn't this imply Yahweh meant by the phrase "for from Isaac will your seed be called" that he would make a nation of Isaac? And seeing Yahweh was talking in relation to Isaac and Ishmael, didn't he imply that the promised seed would come from Isaac's lineage and not Ishmael's lineage?
Seeing that Ishmael's descendants are Abraham's seed, and Isaac's descendants are Abraham's seed, doesn't it appear that Yahweh was not talking about physical descendants in their plurality, but was talking of a single or individual descendant? Wasn't Yahweh telling Abraham that the promised seed - the Messiah - would descend from Isaac and not from Ishmael?
What Does The Phrase "House Of Isaac" Mean As Used In Amos 7?
You wrote,
Next ETERNAL CREATOR said the House of Israel would be taken captive. Take note that the House of Judah (Jews) is mentioned by itself, and that both nations are mentioned together as the House of Isaac. Therefore it requires both Israel and Judah together to make up the House of Isaac.
"The high places of Isaac shall be desolate, And the sanctuaries of Israel shall be laid waste. I will rise with the sword against the house of Jeroboam." Then Amaziah the priest of Bethel sent to Jeroboam king of Israel, saying, "Amos has conspired against you in the midst of the house of Israel. The land is not able to bear all his words. "For thus Amos has said: 'Jeroboam shall die by the sword, And Israel shall surely be led away captive from their own land.'" Then Amaziah said to Amos: "Go, you seer! Flee to the land of Judah. There eat bread, and there prophesy. But never again prophesy at Bethel, for it is the king's sanctuary, And it is the royal residence." Then Amos answered, and said to Amaziah: I was no prophet, Nor was I a son of a prophet, but I was a sheepherder and a tender of sycamore fruit. Then the 'LORD' took me as I followed the flock, And the 'LORD' said to me, 'Go, prophesy to My people Israel.' Now therefore, hear the word of the 'LORD': you say, 'Do not prophesy against Israel, and do not spout against the house of Isaac." (Amos 7:9-16)
Did Yahweh limit the captivity he prophesied only to the house of Israel, sparing the house of Judah captivity?
Where, in the above quotation from Amos 7:9-16, is the "house of Judah" mentioned, leave alone mentioned by itself? Wouldn't one say that you are reading into the text what it does not say?
Amos 7 reads,
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Thus the Lord Yahweh showed me: and, behold, he formed locusts in the beginning of the shooting up of the latter growth; and, behold, it was the latter growth after the king’s harvest. 7:2It happened that, when they made an end of eating the grass of the land, then I said, "Lord Yahweh, forgive, I beg you! How could Jacob stand? For he is small."7:3
Yahweh relented concerning this. "It shall not be," says Yahweh.7:4
Thus the Lord Yahweh showed me and, behold, the Lord Yahweh called for judgment by fire; and it dried up the great deep, and would have devoured the land. 7:5Then I said, "Lord Yahweh, stop, I beg you! How could Jacob stand? For he is small."7:6
Yahweh relented concerning this. "This also shall not be," says the Lord Yahweh.7:7
Thus he showed me and, behold, the Lord stood beside a wall made by a plumb line, with a plumb line in his hand. 7:8Yahweh said to me, "Amos, what do you see?"I said, "A plumb line."
Then the Lord said, "Behold, I will set a plumb line in the midst of my people Israel. I will not again pass by them any more. 7:9The high places of Isaac will be desolate, the sanctuaries of Israel will be laid waste; and I will rise against the house of Jeroboam with the sword."
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Then Amaziah the priest of Beth-el sent to Jeroboam king of Israel, saying, "Amos has conspired against you in the midst of the house of Israel. The land is not able to bear all his words. 7:11For Amos says, ‘Jeroboam will die by the sword, and Israel shall surely be led away captive out of his land.’"7:12
Amaziah also said to Amos, "You seer, go, flee away into the land of Judah, and there eat bread, and prophesy there: 7:13but don’t prophesy again any more at Bethel; for it is the king’s sanctuary, and it is a royal house!"7:14
Then Amos answered Amaziah, "I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet’s son; but I was a herdsman, and a farmer of sycamore trees; 7:15and Yahweh took me from following the flock, and Yahweh said to me, ‘Go, prophesy to my people Israel.’ 7:16Now therefore listen to the word of Yahweh: ‘You say, Don’t prophesy against Israel, and don’t preach against the house of Isaac.’ 7:17Therefore thus says Yahweh: ‘Your wife shall be a prostitute in the city, and your sons and your daughters shall fall by the sword, and your land shall be divided by line; and you yourself shall die in a land that is unclean, and Israel shall surely be led away captive out of his land.’"Doesn't it appear from Amos 7 that Amos was prophesying in Israel, and specifically at Bethel, the base of the king of the house of Israel? Doesn't it also appear that Amos used Israel and Isaac synonymously, without making a distinction between the two? For in 7:9 he equates "the high places of Isaac" with "the sanctuaries of Israel", with a connecting reference to "the house of Jeroboam". And in 7:16 he equates prophesying against Israel with preaching against the house of Isaac. Amos here makes no distinction between Israel and Isaac.
The person who makes a distinction is Amos' opponent Amaziah, for in 7:10-12 he distinguishes between the land of the house of Israel and the land of Judah, presumably the land of the house of Judah.
If Amos' message in Amos 7 was confined only to the house of Israel, then Amos' references to the house of Isaac or high places of Isaac relate only to the house of Israel or the high places of the house of Israel, headed by the house of Jeroboam, excluding Judah!
It should be noted that Amaziah did not forbid Amos from prophesying to Judah, for he told Amos to go and prophesy in Judah, thereby leaving Israel (house of Israel) in peace. Yet in 7:16 Amos says that Amaziah was telling him not to prophesy against Israel, not to prophesy against the house of Isaac. Isn't it therefore clear from Amos' usage in Amos 7 that the house of Israel is synonymous with the house of Isaac, EXCLUDING the house of Judah? Doesn't this therefore mean that whenever the phrase "house of Isaac" is encountered it should not be assumed that it is referring to both Judah and Israel, seeing that it can refer only to the house of Israel?
And if one is to be technical about it, doesn't the house of Isaac include both the house of Jacob (Israel and Judah) and the house of Esau? Would you say that the phrase "sons of Isaac" includes both Esau and Jacob?
Are The Anglo-Saxons The Sons Of Isaac?
You wrote,
Linguistic analysis of the word "Anglo-Saxon" shows the word "Saxon" means "sons of Isaac." This is exactly what was promised to Abraham and again to Jacob:
"The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth." (Gen. 48:16)
Our CREATOR's statement to Abraham, "in Isaac shall your seed be called" has now come to pass exactly that way. The basic message the CREATOR was relaying through Abraham is, "That through Isaac the Children of Israel will be able to learn their identity."
Yahweh Did Not Promise Abraham What The Author Alleges
Hasn't my above examination of Genesis 21:12-13 shown that Yahweh DID NOT promise Abraham that his descendants would be called "sons of Isaac"? Wasn't Yahweh simply telling him that between Isaac and Ishmael, both to father descendants of Abraham, it was in Isaac that Abraham's promised seed would arise? Wasn't this Yahweh prophesying to Abraham that the Messiah would arise from Isaac and not from Ishmael?
The Name Of The Fathers Abraham, Isaac And Jacob Is Upon Ephraim And Manasseh And Not Upon All The Children Of Israel
Genesis 48:8-16 reads,
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Israel saw Joseph’s sons, and said, "Who are these?"48:9
Joseph said to his father, "They are my sons, whom God has given me here."He said, "Please bring them to me, and I will bless them." 48:10Now the eyes of Israel were dim for age, so that he couldn’t see. He brought them near to him; and he kissed them, and embraced them. 48:11Israel said to Joseph, "I didn’t think I would see your face, and, behold, God has let me see your seed also." 48:12Joseph brought them out from between his knees, and he bowed himself with his face to the earth. 48:13Joseph took them both, Ephraim in his right hand toward Israel’s left hand, and Manasseh in his left hand toward Israel’s right hand, and brought them near to him. 48:14Israel stretched out his right hand, and laid it on Ephraim’s head, who was the younger, and his left hand on Manasseh’s head, guiding his hands knowingly, for Manasseh was the firstborn. 48:15He blessed Joseph, and said, "The God before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God who has fed me all my life long to this day, 48:16the angel who has redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads, and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac. Let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth."
Who received Israel's blessing that you refer to - all the children of Israel or just the house of Joseph, and specifically Ephraim and Manasseh? Aren't Israel, Isaac and Abraham's names all to be named on both Ephraim and Manasseh?
Why Don't Anglo-Saxons Bear The Names Of Abraham And Israel?
According to your theory, that Anglo-Saxons are the children of Israel - all 12/13 tribes, wouldn't you be saying that all the children of Israel would bear the names of Abraham, Isaac and Israel? If so, which people are called by Abraham's name, and also by Isaac's name and also by Israel's name? Are the Anglo-Saxons called by Abraham's name? Are the Anglo-Saxons called by Israel's name? If Anglo-Saxons are, as you say, synonymous with sons of Isaac, why don't they bear the names of both Abraham and Israel? Doesn't this show, going by Israel's prophetic blessing in Genesis 48:16, that Anglo-Saxons are not the people he blessed?
Should A Blessing Confined To Joseph Be Applied To All The Children Of Israel?
Now, Genesis 48:16 clearly shows that those carrying the names of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are just Ephraim and Manasseh. Wouldn't it therefore be inappropriate to apply this prophetic blessing to all the sons of Israel, seeing that Israel confined it to only Joseph's sons?
Are The Brahmans Of Southern Asia The Children Of Israel?
And if one is to use linguistic analysis of a people's name as the identifying mark of a people and their ancestor, as you suggest with Anglo-Saxons and sons of Isaac, would you also say that the Brahmins/Brahmans of India are Israelites, seeing that they carry Abraham's name? But wouldn't this admission conflict with your theory that it is the Anglo-Saxons who are the "lost 10 tribes" and not the Brahmans?
Logical Weakness Of The Author's Thesis
It appears to me that you are trying to force scriptures to fit into your preconceived theory, rather than allow the scriptures to speak for themselves and reveal the truth of the matter. Your comments have not proved that the Anglo-Saxons are the children of Israel. And it appears that the subsequent portion of your article proceeds on the basis of your unproven assertion - theory - on the presumption that it has already been proven!
An Example Of The Author's Unproven Assertions
You wrote,
Generally speaking, the democracies of Europe, America, and the countries of the former British Commonwealth are the "lost tribes" of Israel. Most people in these countries have the mistaken feeling that they are gentile because most people today have no idea past two or three generations where they came from.
The people of NW Europe migrated to the British Isles, Ireland, and Scotland. They colonized South Africa, New Zealand, Australia, and America. Since they were from the Anglo-Saxon, Celtic people and are called Saxons (sons of Isaac), this is a fulfillment of prophesy.
As can be seen from my comments, it appears that these comments of yours are just theory, as Scripture does not support them - at least not by the scriptures you have cited. It is therefore incorrect to say that Israelite prophecies have been fulfilled in the Anglo-Saxons!
Yahweh Prophesied That He Would Become Father To His Anointed
You wrote,
Someone will appear who has authority to take the crown-and it rightfully belongs to him. But who? Notice another passage about the coming Messiah:
"Why do the nations rage, and the people plot a vain thing: The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the 'LORD' AND AGAINST HIS ANOINTED, saying, 'Let us break Their bonds in pieces And cast away Their cords from us.' He who sits in the heavens shall laugh; The 'LORD' shall hold them in derision. Then He shall speak to them in His wrath, and distress them in His deep displeasure. 'YET I HAVE SET MY KING ON MY HOLY HILL OF ZION. I will declare the decree, ' The 'LORD' has said to Me, 'YOU ARE MY SON, TODAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN YOU. Ask of Me, AND I WILL GIVE YOU THE NATIONS FOR YOUR INHERITANCE, And the ends of the earth for Your possession. You shall break them with a rod of iron; You shall dash them to pieces like a potter's vessel.' Now therefore, be wise, O kings; be instructed, you judges of the earth. Serve the 'LORD' with fear, And rejoice with trembling. Kiss the son, lest he be angry, and you perish in the way, When His wrath is kindled but a little. BLESSED ARE ALL THOSE WHO PUT THEIR TRUST IN HIM." (Ps. 2:1-12)
Isn't it clear from the scriptures you have quoted above that Yahweh's anointed is indeed Yahweh's son, and Yahweh is his father? Isn't this what Psalm 2:7 clearly and unambiguously says? Isn't the Messiah, the one whom all nations will submit to, indeed the son of Yahweh, having been begotten at a particular point in time, implying that he wasn't so prior to that point in time?
Yahweh Prophesied The Messiah's Death And Resurrection Without His Body Decomposing
You wrote,
Notice another Messianic verse:
"I will bless the 'LORD' who has given me counsel; My heart also instructs me in the night seasons. I have set the 'LORD' always before me; Because He is at my right hand I shall not be moved. Therefore my heart is glad, and my glory rejoices; My flesh also will rest in hope. FOR YOU WILL NOT LEAVE MY SOUL IN SHEOL, Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption. You will show me the path of life; In Your presence is fullness of joy; AT YOUR RIGHT HAND ARE PLEASURES FOREVERMORE." (Ps. 16:7-11)
Whoever the Messiah is will be a Son of 'God' with authority to take the crown over all kings. He will be resurrected to ETERNAL life and will sit at the right hand of the Father forevermore. But, oh who could this ever be?
Isn't it clear, from these scriptures you have quoted, that the Messiah will indeed die, and his soul will go to Sheol, but will not remain there? Isn't it also clear, in the context of his death and his soul going to Sheol upon death, that he would not see corruption, seeing that Yahweh would not allow it?
Which human being fathered by Yahweh has died, his soul has gone to Sheol and his body not seeing corruption? Has such a human being existed, or is he yet to come?
Did Yahweh Raise David Son Of Jesse To Life Without David's Body Decomposing?
You wrote,
King David knew that ETERNAL would not leave him in the grave forever but would resurrect him to everlasting life in the likeness of the CREATOR Himself and He would sit at the CREATOR's right side. Notice the next two passages:
"Preserve me [David speaking], O CREATOR, for in You I put my trust. ... O ETERNAL, You are the portion of my inheritance and my cup; You maintain my lot. The lines have fallen to me in pleasant places; Yes, I have a good inheritance. I will bless ETERNAL who has given me counsel; My heart also instructs me in the night seasons. I have set ETERNAL always before me; Because He is at my right hand I shall not be moved. Therefore my heart is glad, and my glory rejoices; My flesh [DAVID'S] also will rest in hope. For YOU WILL NOT LEAVE MY [DAVID'S] SOUL IN SHEOL, NOR WILL YOU ALLOW YOUR HOLY ONE [DAVID] TO SEE CORRUPTION. You will show me the path of life; In Your presence is fullness of joy; AT YOUR RIGHT HAND ARE PLEASURES FOREVERMORE."(Ps. 16:1,5-11)
"With Your hand from men, O ETERNAL, From men of the world who have their portion in this life, And whose belly You fill with Your hidden treasure. They are satisfied with children, And leave the rest of their possession for their babes. As for me [David] , I will see Your face in righteousness; I shall be satisfied WHEN I [DAVID] AWAKE IN YOUR LIKENESS." (Ps. 17:14-15)
There is a matter you are not addressing in inserting David's name in the texts above. Hasn't David seen corruption? Has David risen from the dead? Seeing that David has not yet risen from the dead, hasn't Yahweh allowed David to see corruption, seeing his body has become corrupted or has decomposed? Doesn't the disintegration of David's body PROVE that he is NOT the Messiah who shall rule over all nations, even though he was indeed a messiah who ruled over the children of Israel?
Reiterating what I have said above, isn't it clear that the Messiah to rule over all nations will be fathered by Yahweh, will die, and be raised to life prior to his body seeing corruption? Doesn't this therefore show that his prophesied death and the habitation of his soul in Sheol is brief, no longer than the time taken for a dead human body to see corruption?
Is there a human being who has met this profile? Will there be a human being who will meet this profile?
Weren't Micah's Messianic Words A Prophecy Rather Than Historical Recollection?
You quoted Micah 5:2-4. It reads,
5:2
But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,5:3
Therefore he will abandon them until the time that she who is in labor gives birth.5:4
He shall stand, and shall shepherd in the strength of Yahweh,Micah 1:1 reads,
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The word of Yahweh that came to Micah the Morashtite in the days of Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah, which he saw concerning Samaria and Jerusalem.Isn't it clear that Micah prophesied long after the death of king David the son of Jesse? Wasn't Micah's vision in Micah 5:2-4 for a time yet to come rather than one that had passed?
Didn't Micah Say That The Messiah Has Existed "From Of Old, From Everlasting"?
Doesn't Micah 5:2 suggest that the ruler in Israel would arise from Bethlehem Ephrathah at a time in future, relative to when Micah was speaking? Doesn't 5:2 also give a trait of this ruler - "whose goings forth are from of old, from everlasting"?
Were the goings forth of David son of Jesse from of old, from everlasting? Did not David son of Jesse's existence commence relatively recently, certainly NOT from everlasting? Doesn't 5:2 therefore imply that the future Messianic ruler is more than a human being, seeing that his goings forth are from of old, from everlasting? Doesn't this clearly show us he has been existence from of old, from everlasting?
The Messiah Has More Than One Name
Yahweh clearly calls this future Messianic ruler David. Earlier on you showed in Genesis this Messianic ruler being called Shiloh. Was David son of Jesse called Shiloh?
Doesn't the future Messianic ruler go by different names, including both Shiloh and David? Isn't it therefore the case that one cannot assume that he is David son of Jesse, seeing that he is also called Shiloh, yet David son of Jesse is not shown as having been called Shiloh?
Yahweh Names His Servant David As King And Shepherd Over His People Israel
You quoted Ezekiel 37:21-28. It reads,
37:21
Say to them, Thus says the Lord Yahweh: Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, where they are gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: 37:22and I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all; and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all; 37:23neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions; but I will save them out of all their dwelling-places, in which they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God. 37:24My servant David shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my ordinances, and observe my statutes, and do them. 37:25They shall dwell in the land that I have given to Jacob my servant, in which your fathers lived; and they shall dwell therein, they, and their children, and their children’s children, forever: and David my servant shall be their prince for ever. 37:26Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them; and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them forevermore. 37:27My tent also shall be with them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 37:28The nations shall know that I am Yahweh who sanctifies Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them forevermore.Isn't it clear that the children of Israel will have one king and shepherd - David, Yahweh's servant?
Yahweh Names Himself As THE Shepherd Over His People Israel
Ezekiel 34:11-16 reads,
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For thus says the Lord Yahweh: Behold, I myself, even I, will search for my sheep, and will seek them out. 34:12As a shepherd seeks out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep that are scattered abroad, so will I seek out my sheep; and I will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day. 34:13I will bring them out from the peoples, and gather them from the countries, and will bring them into their own land; and I will feed them on the mountains of Israel, by the watercourses, and in all the inhabited places of the country. 34:14I will feed them with good pasture; and on the mountains of the height of Israel shall their fold be: there shall they lie down in a good fold; and on fat pasture shall they feed on the mountains of Israel. 34:15I myself will be the shepherd of my sheep, and I will cause them to lie down, says the Lord Yahweh. 34:16I will seek that which was lost, and will bring back that which was driven away, and will bind up that which was broken, and will strengthen that which was sick: but the fat and the strong I will destroy; I will feed them in justice.Doesn't Yahweh clearly say that he himself will be THE shepherd of his sheep?
Yahweh Says He Will Set Up David As THE Shepherd Over His People Israel
Ezekiel 34:20-31 reads,
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Therefore thus says the Lord Yahweh to them: Behold, I, even I, will judge between the fat sheep and the lean sheep. 34:21Because you thrust with side and with shoulder, and push all the diseased with your horns, until you have scattered them abroad; 34:22therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey; and I will judge between sheep and sheep. 34:23I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd. 34:24I, Yahweh, will be their God, and my servant David prince among them; I, Yahweh, have spoken it. 34:25I will make with them a covenant of peace, and will cause evil animals to cease out of the land; and they shall dwell securely in the wilderness, and sleep in the woods. 34:26I will make them and the places round about my hill a blessing; and I will cause the shower to come down in its season; there shall be showers of blessing. 34:27The tree of the field shall yield its fruit, and the earth shall yield its increase, and they shall be secure in their land; and they shall know that I am Yahweh, when I have broken the bars of their yoke, and have delivered them out of the hand of those who made slaves of them. 34:28They shall no more be a prey to the nations, neither shall the animals of the earth devour them; but they shall dwell securely, and none shall make them afraid. 34:29I will raise up to them a plantation for renown, and they shall be no more consumed with famine in the land, neither bear the shame of the nations any more. 34:30They shall know that I, Yahweh, their God am with them, and that they, the house of Israel, are my people, says the Lord Yahweh. 34:31You my sheep, the sheep of my pasture, are men, and I am your God, says the Lord Yahweh.Doesn't Yahweh here say that he will set up his servant David to be the one shepherd over his people?
Is Yahweh Contradicting Himself?
Is Yahweh CONTRADICTING himself? On the one hand he says that Israel will have ONE shepherd, his servant David. On the other hand he says that he himself will be Israel's ONE shepherd - the shepherd of his sheep. How can there be TWO personages being called the one shepherd over Israel? Is this a contradiction? Or is there a hidden answer in these comments?
The Messianic David The Shepherd Is Yahweh The Shepherd!
One shepherd is called David, Yahweh's servant. Another shepherd is called Yahweh, the owner of the flock, seeing that the sheep, the children of Israel, are his sheep. Isn't it the case that the only manner a contradiction is avoided is if Yahweh the shepherd is also David the shepherd? Doesn't this show that the future Messianic ruler is actually Yahweh?
But how can the future Messianic ruler be Yahweh? If he is also David, doesn't this mean that he is indeed Yahweh's servant? Can Yahweh also be Yahweh's servant? Is this another apparent contradiction? Or is there a hidden answer in these comments?
Isn't it the case that the only manner a contradiction is avoided is if there are TWO Yahwehs - two separate individuals each called Yahweh? With one Yahweh being Mighty One to the other Yahweh, the other Yahweh being servant to Yahweh the Mighty One?
Are there two Yahwehs? Are there two individuals each called Yahweh, with the lesser Yahweh having existed from of old, even from everlasting?
Hagar Saw Yahweh - The Angel Of Yahweh - And Called Him Mighty One
Genesis 16:7-14 reads,
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The angel of Yahweh found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness, by the fountain in the way to Shur. 16:8He said, "Hagar, Sarai’s handmaid, where did you come from? Where are you going?"She said, "I am fleeing from the face of my mistress Sarai."
16:9
The angel of Yahweh said to her, "Return to your mistress, and submit yourself under her hands." 16:10The angel of Yahweh said to her, "I will greatly multiply your seed, that they will not be numbered for multitude." 16:11The angel of Yahweh said to her, "Behold, you are with child, and will bear a son. You shall call his name Ishmael, because Yahweh has heard your affliction. 16:12He will be like a wild donkey among men. His hand will be against every man, and every man’s hand against him. He will live opposite all of his brothers."16:13
She called the name of Yahweh who spoke to her, "You are a God who sees," for she said, "Have I even stayed alive after seeing him?" 16:14Therefore the well was called Beer-lahai-roi. Behold, it is between Kadesh and Bered.Doesn't Genesis 16:13 clearly state that it was Yahweh who spoke to Hagar? Don't 16:7, 9, 10 and 11 clearly state that the person Hagar saw and spoke with was the angel of Yahweh? Didn't Hagar understand that she had dealt with the Mighty One? Isn't the person whom Hagar met and spoke with both the angel of Yahweh and Yahweh? Doesn't this show that the angel of Yahweh is called Yahweh? Doesn't this imply that there are two Yahwehs, with the lesser Yahweh being a servant or messenger (angel) of the greater Yahweh? Isn't it clear that there are indeed TWO Yahwehs?
Abraham Did Not Withhold His Son From The Angel Of Yahweh
Genesis 22:11-18 reads,
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The angel of Yahweh called to him out of the sky, and said, "Abraham, Abraham!"He said, "Here I am."
22:12
He said, "Don’t lay your hand on the boy, neither do anything to him. For now I know that you fear God, seeing you have not withheld your son, your only son, from me."22:13
Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and saw that behind him was a ram caught in the thicket by his horns. Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering instead of his son. 22:14Abraham called the name of that place Yahweh-jireh. As it is said to this day, "In Yahweh’s mountain it will be provided.22:15
The angel of Yahweh called to Abraham a second time out of the sky, 22:16and said, "I have sworn by myself, says Yahweh, because you have done this thing, and have not withheld your son, your only son, 22:17that in blessing I will bless you, and in multiplying I will multiply your seed as the stars of the heavens, and as the sand which is on the seashore. Your seed will possess the gate of his enemies. 22:18In your seed will all the nations of the earth be blessed, because you have obeyed my voice."Doesn't 22:12 clearly show that Abraham had not withheld his son from the person who was speaking to Abraham? Wasn't the person who was speaking to Abraham the angel of Yahweh? Isn't it therefore clear that Abraham had not withheld his son from the angel of Yahweh?
The Angel Of Yahweh Is Yahweh's Messenger Possessing Great Authority
Doesn't 22:15-18 clearly show the angel of Yahweh quoting Yahweh his master, seeing he said that Yahweh had sworn by himself whatever it was that he had sworn concerning Abraham? Doesn't this passage reveal that the angel of Yahweh was indeed acting as Yahweh's messenger, yet possessing great authority himself, seeing he commanded Abraham with the command to kill his son, and then withheld him?
Yahweh, The Mighty One Of Abraham And Isaac, Spoke To Jacob
Genesis 28:10-22 reads,
28:10
Jacob went out from Beersheba, and went toward Haran. 28:11He came to a certain place, and stayed there all night, because the sun had set. He took one of the stones of the place, and put it under his head, and lay down in that place to sleep. 28:12He dreamed. Behold, a stairway set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven. Behold, the angels of God ascending and descending on it. 28:13Behold, Yahweh stood above it, and said, "I am Yahweh, the God of Abraham your father, and the God of Isaac. The land whereon you lie, to you will I give it, and to your seed. 28:14Your seed will be as the dust of the earth, and you will spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south. In you and in your seed will all the families of the earth be blessed. 28:15Behold, I am with you, and will keep you, wherever you go, and will bring you again into this land. For I will not leave you, until I have done that which I have spoken of to you."28:16
Jacob awakened out of his sleep, and he said, "Surely Yahweh is in this place, and I didn’t know it." 28:17He was afraid, and said, "How dreadful is this place! This is none other than God’s house, and this is the gate of heaven."28:18
Jacob rose up early in the morning, and took the stone that he had put under his head, and set it up for a pillar, and poured oil on the top of it. 28:19He called the name of that place Bethel, but the name of the city was Luz at the first. 28:20Jacob vowed a vow, saying, "If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and clothing to put on, 28:21so that I come again to my father’s house in peace, and Yahweh will be my God, 28:22then this stone, which I have set up for a pillar, will be God’s house. Of all that you will give me I will surely give the tenth to you."Isn't it clear from 28:13 that it was Yahweh who spoke to Jacob, Yahweh who is the Mighty One of Abraham and the Mighty One of Isaac?
Jacob Clearly Understood That The Mighty One Of Abraham And Isaac Is The Angel Of Yahweh Called Yahweh
Genesis 31:1-13 reads,
31:1
He heard the words of Laban’s sons, saying, "Jacob has taken away all that was our father’s. From that which was our father’s, has he gotten all this wealth." 31:2Jacob saw the expression on Laban’s face, and, behold, it was not toward him as before. 31:3Yahweh said to Jacob, "Return to the land of your fathers, and to your relatives, and I will be with you."31:4
Jacob sent and called Rachel and Leah to the field to his flock, 31:5and said to them, "I see the expression on your father’s face, that it is not toward me as before; but the God of my father has been with me. 31:6You know that I have served your father with all of my strength. 31:7Your father has deceived me, and changed my wages ten times, but God didn’t allow him to hurt me. 31:8If he said this, ‘The speckled will be your wages,’ then all the flock bore speckled. If he said this, ‘The streaked will be your wages,’ then all the flock bore streaked. 31:9Thus God has taken away the cattle of your father, and given them to me. 31:10It happened at the time that the flock conceive, that I lifted up my eyes, and saw in a dream, and behold, the male goats which leaped on the flock were streaked, speckled, and grizzled. 31:11The angel of God said to me in the dream, ‘Jacob,’ and I said, ‘Here I am.’ 31:12He said, ‘Now lift up your eyes, and behold, all the male goats which leap on the flock are streaked, speckled, and grizzled, for I have seen all that Laban does to you. 31:13I am the God of Bethel, where you anointed a pillar, where you vowed a vow to me. Now arise, get out from this land, and return to the land of your birth."Doesn't 31:3 clearly state that Yahweh commanded Jacob to return to the land of his fathers? Doesn't 31:11 say that the person who spoke to Jacob in the dream was the angel of the Mighty One? Doesn't 31:13 show that the angel of the Mighty One identified himself to Jacob as the Mighty One of Bethel? Doesn't 28:13 show that the Mighty One of Bethel is indeed Yahweh, the Mighty One of Abraham and the Mighty One of Isaac? Isn't it therefore clear that the angel of Yahweh is called Yahweh? Isn't it therefore clear that the angel of Yahweh is the Mighty One of Abraham and the Mighty One of Isaac? Isn't it also clear that he is also called the angel of Mighty One?
There Are TWO Individuals Both Called Yahweh And Both Referred To As Mighty One
Don't these several scriptures show that there are two separate individuals both called Yahweh and both referred to as Mighty One? Isn't the angel of Yahweh servant to the greater Yahweh? Isn't the angel of the Mighty One servant to the greater Mighty One?
Israel Clearly Understood That The Angel Of Yahweh Is Mighty One
Genesis 48:15-16 reads,
48:15
He blessed Joseph, and said, "The God before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God who has fed me all my life long to this day, 48:16the angel who has redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads, and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac. Let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth."Didn't Israel clearly understand that the Mighty One before whom his father Abraham and Isaac walked was the same angel who redeemed him from all evil? Doesn't this clearly show that Israel understood that the angel of Yahweh was also Mighty One and also called Yahweh?
There Are TWO Yahwehs, With One Yahweh Greater Than The Other Yahweh
Haven't the scriptures examined above clearly shown that there are indeed TWO Yahweh's, with one Yahweh greater than the other? Isn't the lesser Yahweh also called the angel of Yahweh, seeing he is messenger (angel) or servant to the greater Yahweh?
The Lesser Yahweh Is The Future Messianic Ruler Over Israel
Going back to Ezekiel 34, isn't it now clearly seen that there is indeed no contradiction in there being ONE shepherd over Israel, despite this one shepherd being referred to by two different names - Yahweh and David, the servant of Yahweh? Seeing that there are TWO Yahwehs, with the lesser Yahweh the servant of the greater Yahweh, isn't it now seen that the future Messianic ruler over all earthly nations is the lesser Yahweh, the servant of the greater Yahweh? Isn't the lesser Yahweh also called David, and also called Shiloh? Isn't it clear that the future Messianic ruler is Yahweh, the Mighty One of Abraham, Isaac and Israel, also called the angel of Yahweh, and David, the servant of Yahweh?
This is the future Messianic ruler, NOT David son of Jesse!
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