CHAPTER 1 - NEW PROOF OF
MESSIAH
Is The Overriding Name For
The Children Of
You wrote,
Another of these promises was that these descendants
of Abraham would be called the sons of Isaac:
"And 'God' said unto Abraham, Let it not be
grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all
that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy
seed be called." (Gen. 27: 12)
Even though Sarah was barren and was in her
old age, the Great CREATOR intervened and she gave birth to a son and named him
Isaac, (Gen. 21:2-3). Isaac had two sons, Esau and Jacob. The birthright of
Isaac was passed to Jacob (Gen. 25:24-33). Jacob's name was changed to Israel,
(Gen. 35:10). Thus all the sons that
Why do you say that the overriding name would be "sons of Isaac"? Does Genesis 21:12 use the phrase "sons of Isaac"? Does the phrase "for in Isaac shall thy seed be called" mean "sons of Isaac" or does it mean something else?
Genesis 21:12-13 reads,
21:12God
said to Abraham, "Don’t let it be grievous in your sight because of the
boy, and because of your handmaid. In all that Sarah says to you, listen to her
voice. For from Isaac will your seed be called. 21:13Also of the son of the handmaid will I make a nation,
because he is your seed."
Doesn't Yahweh himself clarify what he means by the phrase "for from Isaac will your seed be called"? Doesn't he say, immediately after these comments, "also of the son of the handmaid will I make a nation"? Doesn't this imply Yahweh meant by the phrase "for from Isaac will your seed be called" that he would make a nation of Isaac? And seeing Yahweh was talking in relation to Isaac and Ishmael, didn't he imply that the promised seed would come from Isaac's lineage and not Ishmael's lineage?
Seeing that Ishmael's descendants are Abraham's seed, and Isaac's descendants are Abraham's seed, doesn't it appear that Yahweh was not talking about physical descendants in their plurality, but was talking of a single or individual descendant? Wasn't Yahweh telling Abraham that the promised seed - the Messiah - would descend from Isaac and not from Ishmael?
What Does The Phrase
"House Of Isaac" Mean As Used In Amos 7?
You wrote,
Next ETERNAL CREATOR said the House of
"The high places of Isaac shall be desolate, And
the sanctuaries of
Did Yahweh limit the captivity he prophesied only to the house of Israel, sparing the house of Judah captivity?
Where, in the above quotation from Amos 7:9-16, is the "house of Judah" mentioned, leave alone mentioned by itself? Wouldn't one say that you are reading into the text what it does not say?
Amos 7 reads,
7:1Thus
the Lord Yahweh showed me: and, behold, he formed locusts in the beginning of
the shooting up of the latter growth; and, behold, it was the latter growth
after the king’s harvest. 7:2It
happened that, when they made an end of eating the grass of the land, then I
said, "Lord Yahweh, forgive, I beg you! How could Jacob stand? For
he is small."
7:3Yahweh
relented concerning this. "It shall not be," says Yahweh.
7:4Thus
the Lord Yahweh showed me and, behold, the Lord Yahweh called for judgment by
fire; and it dried up the great deep, and would have devoured the land. 7:5Then I said, "Lord Yahweh, stop, I beg
you! How could Jacob stand? For he is small."
7:6Yahweh
relented concerning this. "This also shall not be," says the Lord
Yahweh.
7:7Thus
he showed me and, behold, the Lord stood beside a wall made by a plumb line,
with a plumb line in his hand. 7:8Yahweh
said to me, "Amos, what do you see?"
I said, "A plumb line."
Then the Lord said, "Behold, I will set a
plumb line in the midst of my people Israel. I will not again pass by
them any more. 7:9The high places
of Isaac will be desolate, the sanctuaries of Israel will be laid
waste; and I will rise against the house of Jeroboam with the
sword."
7:10Then
Amaziah the priest of Beth-el sent to Jeroboam king of Israel, saying,
"Amos has conspired against you in the midst of the house of Israel.
The land is not able to bear all his words. 7:11For
Amos says, ‘Jeroboam will die by the sword, and Israel shall surely be
led away captive out of his land.’"
7:12Amaziah
also said to Amos, "You seer, go, flee away into the land of Judah,
and there eat bread, and prophesy there: 7:13but
don’t prophesy again any more at Bethel; for it is the king’s sanctuary, and it
is a royal house!"
7:14Then
Amos answered Amaziah, "I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet’s son;
but I was a herdsman, and a farmer of sycamore trees; 7:15and Yahweh took me from following the
flock, and Yahweh said to me, ‘Go, prophesy to my people Israel.’ 7:16Now therefore listen to the word of Yahweh:
‘You say, Don’t prophesy against Israel, and don’t preach against the
house of Isaac.’ 7:17Therefore
thus says Yahweh: ‘Your wife shall be a prostitute in the city, and your sons
and your daughters shall fall by the sword, and your land shall be divided by
line; and you yourself shall die in a land that is unclean, and Israel
shall surely be led away captive out of his land.’"
Doesn't it appear from Amos 7 that Amos was prophesying in Israel, and specifically at Bethel, the base of the king of the house of Israel? Doesn't it also appear that Amos used Israel and Isaac synonymously, without making a distinction between the two? For in 7:9 he equates "the high places of Isaac" with "the sanctuaries of Israel", with a connecting reference to "the house of Jeroboam". And in 7:16 he equates prophesying against Israel with preaching against the house of Isaac. Amos here makes no distinction between Israel and Isaac.
The person who makes a distinction is Amos' opponent Amaziah, for in 7:10-12 he distinguishes between the land of the house of Israel and the land of Judah, presumably the land of the house of Judah.
If Amos' message in Amos 7 was confined only to the house of Israel, then Amos' references to the house of Isaac or high places of Isaac relate only to the house of Israel or the high places of the house of Israel, headed by the house of Jeroboam, excluding Judah!
It should be noted that Amaziah did not forbid Amos from prophesying to Judah, for he told Amos to go and prophesy in Judah, thereby leaving Israel (house of Israel) in peace. Yet in 7:16 Amos says that Amaziah was telling him not to prophesy against Israel, not to prophesy against the house of Isaac. Isn't it therefore clear from Amos' usage in Amos 7 that the house of Israel is synonymous with the house of Isaac, EXCLUDING the house of Judah? Doesn't this therefore mean that whenever the phrase "house of Isaac" is encountered it should not be assumed that it is referring to both Judah and Israel, seeing that it can refer only to the house of Israel?
And if one is to be technical about it, doesn't the house of Isaac include both the house of Jacob (Israel and Judah) and the house of Esau? Would you say that the phrase "sons of Isaac" includes both Esau and Jacob?
Are The Anglo-Saxons The
Sons Of Isaac?
You wrote,
Linguistic analysis of the word
"Anglo-Saxon" shows the word "Saxon" means "sons of
Isaac." This is exactly what was promised to Abraham and again to Jacob:
"The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless
the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my
fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst
of the earth." (Gen. 48:16)
Our CREATOR's statement to Abraham, "in
Isaac shall your seed be called" has now come to pass exactly that
way. The basic message the CREATOR was relaying through Abraham is, "That
through Isaac the Children of Israel will be able to learn their
identity."
Yahweh Did Not Promise
Abraham What The Author Alleges
Hasn't my above examination of Genesis 21:12-13 shown that Yahweh DID NOT promise Abraham that his descendants would be called "sons of Isaac"? Wasn't Yahweh simply telling him that between Isaac and Ishmael, both to father descendants of Abraham, it was in Isaac that Abraham's promised seed would arise? Wasn't this Yahweh prophesying to Abraham that the Messiah would arise from Isaac and not from Ishmael?
The Name Of The Fathers
Abraham, Isaac And Jacob Is Upon Ephraim And Manasseh And Not Upon All The
Children Of Israel
Genesis 48:8-16 reads,
48:8Israel
saw Joseph’s sons, and said, "Who are these?"
48:9Joseph
said to his father, "They are my sons, whom God has given me here."
He said, "Please bring them to me, and I
will bless them." 48:10Now the
eyes of Israel were dim for age, so that he couldn’t see. He brought them near
to him; and he kissed them, and embraced them. 48:11Israel
said to Joseph, "I didn’t think I would see your face, and, behold, God
has let me see your seed also." 48:12Joseph
brought them out from between his knees, and he bowed himself with his face to
the earth. 48:13Joseph took them
both, Ephraim in his right hand toward Israel’s left hand, and Manasseh in his
left hand toward Israel’s right hand, and brought them near to him. 48:14Israel stretched out his right hand, and
laid it on Ephraim’s head, who was the younger, and his left hand on Manasseh’s
head, guiding his hands knowingly, for Manasseh was the firstborn. 48:15He blessed Joseph, and said, "The
God before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God who has fed me
all my life long to this day, 48:16the
angel who has redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads, and let my name be
named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac. Let them grow
into a multitude in the midst of the earth."
Who received Israel's blessing that you refer to - all the children of Israel or just the house of Joseph, and specifically Ephraim and Manasseh? Aren't Israel, Isaac and Abraham's names all to be named on both Ephraim and Manasseh?
Why Don't Anglo-Saxons Bear
The Names Of Abraham And Israel?
According to your theory, that Anglo-Saxons are the children of Israel - all 12/13 tribes, wouldn't you be saying that all the children of Israel would bear the names of Abraham, Isaac and Israel? If so, which people are called by Abraham's name, and also by Isaac's name and also by Israel's name? Are the Anglo-Saxons called by Abraham's name? Are the Anglo-Saxons called by Israel's name? If Anglo-Saxons are, as you say, synonymous with sons of Isaac, why don't they bear the names of both Abraham and Israel? Doesn't this show, going by Israel's prophetic blessing in Genesis 48:16, that Anglo-Saxons are not the people he blessed?
Should A Blessing Confined
To Joseph Be Applied To All The Children Of Israel?
Now, Genesis 48:16 clearly shows that those carrying the names of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are just Ephraim and Manasseh. Wouldn't it therefore be inappropriate to apply this prophetic blessing to all the sons of Israel, seeing that Israel confined it to only Joseph's sons?
Are The Brahmans Of
Southern Asia The Children Of Israel?
And if one is to use linguistic analysis of a people's name as the identifying mark of a people and their ancestor, as you suggest with Anglo-Saxons and sons of Isaac, would you also say that the Brahmins/Brahmans of India are Israelites, seeing that they carry Abraham's name? But wouldn't this admission conflict with your theory that it is the Anglo-Saxons who are the "lost 10 tribes" and not the Brahmans?
Logical Weakness Of The
Author's Thesis
It appears to me that you are trying to force scriptures to fit into your preconceived theory, rather than allow the scriptures to speak for themselves and reveal the truth of the matter. Your comments have not proved that the Anglo-Saxons are the children of Israel. And it appears that the subsequent portion of your article proceeds on the basis of your unproven assertion - theory - on the presumption that it has already been proven!
An Example Of The Author's
Unproven Assertions
You wrote,
Generally speaking, the democracies of Europe,
America, and the countries of the former British Commonwealth are the
"lost tribes" of Israel. Most people in these countries have the
mistaken feeling that they are gentile because most people today have no idea
past two or three generations where they came from.
The people of NW Europe migrated to the
British Isles, Ireland, and Scotland. They colonized South Africa, New Zealand,
Australia, and America. Since they were from the Anglo-Saxon, Celtic people and
are called Saxons (sons of Isaac), this is a fulfillment of prophesy.
As can be seen from my comments, it appears that these comments of yours are just theory, as Scripture does not support them - at least not by the scriptures you have cited. It is therefore incorrect to say that Israelite prophecies have been fulfilled in the Anglo-Saxons!
Yahweh Prophesied That He
Would Become Father To His Anointed
You wrote,
Someone will appear who has authority to take
the crown-and it rightfully belongs to him. But who? Notice another
passage about the coming Messiah:
"Why do the nations rage, and the people plot a
vain thing: The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel
together, against the 'LORD' AND AGAINST HIS ANOINTED, saying, 'Let us
break Their bonds in pieces And cast away Their cords from us.' He who sits in
the heavens shall laugh; The 'LORD' shall hold them in derision. Then He shall
speak to them in His wrath, and distress them in His deep displeasure. 'YET
I HAVE SET MY KING ON MY HOLY HILL OF ZION. I will declare the decree, '
The 'LORD' has said to Me, 'YOU ARE MY SON, TODAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN YOU.
Ask of Me, AND I WILL GIVE YOU THE NATIONS FOR YOUR INHERITANCE, And the
ends of the earth for Your possession. You shall break them with a rod of iron;
You shall dash them to pieces like a potter's vessel.' Now therefore, be wise,
O kings; be instructed, you judges of the earth. Serve the 'LORD' with fear,
And rejoice with trembling. Kiss the son, lest he be angry, and you perish in
the way, When His wrath is kindled but a little. BLESSED ARE ALL THOSE WHO
PUT THEIR TRUST IN HIM." (Ps. 2:1-12)
Isn't it clear from the scriptures you have quoted above that Yahweh's anointed is indeed Yahweh's son, and Yahweh is his father? Isn't this what Psalm 2:7 clearly and unambiguously says? Isn't the Messiah, the one whom all nations will submit to, indeed the son of Yahweh, having been begotten at a particular point in time, implying that he wasn't so prior to that point in time?
Yahweh Prophesied The
Messiah's Death And Resurrection Without His Body Decomposing
You wrote,
Notice another Messianic verse:
"I will bless the 'LORD' who has given me
counsel; My heart also instructs me in the night seasons. I have set the 'LORD'
always before me; Because He is at my right hand I shall not be moved.
Therefore my heart is glad, and my glory rejoices; My flesh also will rest in
hope. FOR YOU WILL NOT LEAVE MY SOUL IN SHEOL, Nor will You allow Your
Holy One to see corruption. You will show me the path of life; In Your presence
is fullness of joy; AT YOUR RIGHT HAND ARE PLEASURES FOREVERMORE."
(Ps. 16:7-11)
Whoever the Messiah is will be a Son of 'God'
with authority to take the crown over all kings. He will be resurrected to
ETERNAL life and will sit at the right hand of the Father forevermore. But,
oh who could this ever be?
Isn't it clear, from these scriptures you have quoted, that the Messiah will indeed die, and his soul will go to Sheol, but will not remain there? Isn't it also clear, in the context of his death and his soul going to Sheol upon death, that he would not see corruption, seeing that Yahweh would not allow it?
Which human being fathered by Yahweh has died, his soul has gone to Sheol and his body not seeing corruption? Has such a human being existed, or is he yet to come?
Did Yahweh Raise David Son
Of Jesse To Life Without David's Body Decomposing?
You wrote,
King David knew that ETERNAL would not leave
him in the grave forever but would resurrect him to everlasting life in the
likeness of the CREATOR Himself and He would sit at the CREATOR's right side.
Notice the next two passages:
"Preserve me [David speaking], O CREATOR, for in
You I put my trust. ... O ETERNAL, You are the portion of my inheritance and my
cup; You maintain my lot. The lines have fallen to me in pleasant places; Yes,
I have a good inheritance. I will bless ETERNAL who has given me counsel; My
heart also instructs me in the night seasons. I have set ETERNAL always before
me; Because He is at my right hand I shall not be moved. Therefore my heart is
glad, and my glory rejoices; My flesh [DAVID'S] also will rest in hope. For YOU
WILL NOT LEAVE MY [DAVID'S] SOUL IN SHEOL, NOR WILL YOU ALLOW YOUR HOLY ONE
[DAVID] TO SEE CORRUPTION. You will show me the path of life; In Your presence
is fullness of joy; AT YOUR RIGHT HAND ARE PLEASURES FOREVERMORE."(Ps. 16:1,5-11)
"With Your
hand from men, O ETERNAL, From men of the world who have their portion in this
life, And whose belly You fill with Your hidden treasure. They are satisfied
with children, And leave the rest of their possession for their babes. As for
me [David] , I will see Your face in righteousness; I shall be satisfied WHEN I
[DAVID] AWAKE IN YOUR LIKENESS." (Ps. 17:14-15)
There is a matter you are not addressing in inserting David's name in the texts above. Hasn't David seen corruption? Has David risen from the dead? Seeing that David has not yet risen from the dead, hasn't Yahweh allowed David to see corruption, seeing his body has become corrupted or has decomposed? Doesn't the disintegration of David's body PROVE that he is NOT the Messiah who shall rule over all nations, even though he was indeed a messiah who ruled over the children of Israel?
Reiterating what I have said above, isn't it clear that the Messiah to rule over all nations will be fathered by Yahweh, will die, and be raised to life prior to his body seeing corruption? Doesn't this therefore show that his prophesied death and the habitation of his soul in Sheol is brief, no longer than the time taken for a dead human body to see corruption?
Is there a human being who has met this profile? Will there be a human being who will meet this profile?
Weren't Micah's Messianic
Words A Prophecy Rather Than Historical Recollection?
You quoted Micah 5:2-4. It reads,
5:2But
you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
Being small among the clans of Judah,
Out of you one will come forth to me that is to be ruler in Israel;
Whose goings forth are from of old, from everlasting.
5:3Therefore
he will abandon them until the time that she who is in labor gives birth.
Then the rest of his brothers will return to the children of Israel.
5:4He
shall stand, and shall shepherd in the strength of Yahweh,
In the majesty of the name of Yahweh his God:
And they will live, for then he will be great to the ends of the earth.
Micah 1:1 reads,
1:1The
word of Yahweh that came to Micah the Morashtite in the days of Jotham,
Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah, which he saw concerning Samaria and
Jerusalem.
Isn't it clear that Micah prophesied long after the death of king David the son of Jesse? Wasn't Micah's vision in Micah 5:2-4 for a time yet to come rather than one that had passed?
Didn't Micah Say That The
Messiah Has Existed "From Of Old, From Everlasting"?
Doesn't Micah 5:2 suggest that the ruler in Israel would arise from Bethlehem Ephrathah at a time in future, relative to when Micah was speaking? Doesn't 5:2 also give a trait of this ruler - "whose goings forth are from of old, from everlasting"?
Were the goings forth of David son of Jesse from of old, from everlasting? Did not David son of Jesse's existence commence relatively recently, certainly NOT from everlasting? Doesn't 5:2 therefore imply that the future Messianic ruler is more than a human being, seeing that his goings forth are from of old, from everlasting? Doesn't this clearly show us he has been existence from of old, from everlasting?
The Messiah Has More Than
One Name
Yahweh clearly calls this future Messianic ruler David. Earlier on you showed in Genesis this Messianic ruler being called Shiloh. Was David son of Jesse called Shiloh?
Doesn't the future Messianic ruler go by different names, including both Shiloh and David? Isn't it therefore the case that one cannot assume that he is David son of Jesse, seeing that he is also called Shiloh, yet David son of Jesse is not shown as having been called Shiloh?
Yahweh Names His Servant
David As King And Shepherd Over His People Israel
You quoted Ezekiel 37:21-28. It reads,
37:21Say
to them, Thus says the Lord Yahweh: Behold, I will take the children of
Israel from among the nations, where they are gone, and will gather them on
every side, and bring them into their own land: 37:22and
I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one
king shall be king to them all; and they shall be no more two nations,
neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all; 37:23neither shall they defile themselves any
more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their
transgressions; but I will save them out of all their dwelling-places, in which
they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will
be their God. 37:24My servant
David shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they
shall also walk in my ordinances, and observe my statutes, and do them. 37:25They shall dwell in the land that I have
given to Jacob my servant, in which your fathers lived; and they shall dwell
therein, they, and their children, and their children’s children, forever: and David
my servant shall be their prince for ever. 37:26Moreover
I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant
with them; and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary
in the midst of them forevermore. 37:27My
tent also shall be with them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my
people. 37:28The nations shall know
that I am Yahweh who sanctifies Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst
of them forevermore.
Isn't it clear that the children of Israel will have one king and shepherd - David, Yahweh's servant?
Yahweh Names Himself As THE
Shepherd Over His People Israel
Ezekiel 34:11-16 reads,
34:11For
thus says the Lord Yahweh: Behold, I myself, even I, will search for
my sheep, and will seek them out. 34:12As
a shepherd seeks out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep that are
scattered abroad, so will I seek out my sheep; and I will deliver them out of
all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day. 34:13I will bring them out from the peoples, and
gather them from the countries, and will bring them into their own land; and I
will feed them on the mountains of Israel, by the watercourses, and in all the
inhabited places of the country. 34:14I
will feed them with good pasture; and on the mountains of the height of Israel
shall their fold be: there shall they lie down in a good fold; and on fat
pasture shall they feed on the mountains of Israel. 34:15I myself will be the shepherd of my
sheep, and I will cause them to lie down, says the Lord Yahweh. 34:16I will seek that which was lost, and will
bring back that which was driven away, and will bind up that which was broken,
and will strengthen that which was sick: but the fat and the strong I will
destroy; I will feed them in justice.
Doesn't Yahweh clearly say that he himself will be THE shepherd of his sheep?
Yahweh Says He Will Set Up
David As THE Shepherd Over His People Israel
Ezekiel 34:20-31 reads,
34:20Therefore
thus says the Lord Yahweh to them: Behold, I, even I, will judge between
the fat sheep and the lean sheep. 34:21Because
you thrust with side and with shoulder, and push all the diseased with your
horns, until you have scattered them abroad; 34:22therefore
will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey; and I will judge between
sheep and sheep. 34:23I will set
up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he
shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd. 34:24I,
Yahweh, will be their God, and my servant David prince among them; I, Yahweh,
have spoken it. 34:25I will make
with them a covenant of peace, and will cause evil animals to cease out of the
land; and they shall dwell securely in the wilderness, and sleep in the woods. 34:26I will make them and the places round
about my hill a blessing; and I will cause the shower to come down in its
season; there shall be showers of blessing. 34:27The
tree of the field shall yield its fruit, and the earth shall yield its
increase, and they shall be secure in their land; and they shall know that I am
Yahweh, when I have broken the bars of their yoke, and have delivered them out
of the hand of those who made slaves of them. 34:28They
shall no more be a prey to the nations, neither shall the animals of the earth
devour them; but they shall dwell securely, and none shall make them afraid. 34:29I will raise up to them a plantation for
renown, and they shall be no more consumed with famine in the land, neither
bear the shame of the nations any more. 34:30They
shall know that I, Yahweh, their God am with them, and that they, the house of
Israel, are my people, says the Lord Yahweh. 34:31You
my sheep, the sheep of my pasture, are men, and I am your God, says the Lord
Yahweh.
Doesn't Yahweh here say that he will set up his servant David to be the one shepherd over his people?
Is Yahweh Contradicting
Himself?
Is Yahweh CONTRADICTING himself? On the one hand he says that Israel will have ONE shepherd, his servant David. On the other hand he says that he himself will be Israel's ONE shepherd - the shepherd of his sheep. How can there be TWO personages being called the one shepherd over Israel? Is this a contradiction? Or is there a hidden answer in these comments?
The Messianic David The
Shepherd Is Yahweh The Shepherd!
One shepherd is called David, Yahweh's servant. Another shepherd is called Yahweh, the owner of the flock, seeing that the sheep, the children of Israel, are his sheep. Isn't it the case that the only manner a contradiction is avoided is if Yahweh the shepherd is also David the shepherd? Doesn't this show that the future Messianic ruler is actually Yahweh?
But how can the future Messianic ruler be Yahweh? If he is also David, doesn't this mean that he is indeed Yahweh's servant? Can Yahweh also be Yahweh's servant? Is this another apparent contradiction? Or is there a hidden answer in these comments?
Isn't it the case that the only manner a contradiction is avoided is if there are TWO Yahwehs - two separate individuals each called Yahweh? With one Yahweh being Mighty One to the other Yahweh, the other Yahweh being servant to Yahweh the Mighty One?
Are there two Yahwehs? Are there two individuals each called Yahweh, with the lesser Yahweh having existed from of old, even from everlasting?
Hagar Saw Yahweh - The
Angel Of Yahweh - And Called Him Mighty One
Genesis 16:7-14 reads,
16:7The
angel of Yahweh found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness,
by the fountain in the way to Shur. 16:8He
said, "Hagar, Sarai’s handmaid, where did you come from? Where are you
going?"
She said, "I am fleeing from the face of
my mistress Sarai."
16:9The
angel of Yahweh said to her, "Return to your mistress, and
submit yourself under her hands." 16:10The
angel of Yahweh said to her, "I will greatly multiply your seed, that they
will not be numbered for multitude." 16:11The
angel of Yahweh said to her, "Behold, you are with child, and will
bear a son. You shall call his name Ishmael, because Yahweh has heard your
affliction. 16:12He will be like
a wild donkey among men. His hand will be against every man, and every man’s
hand against him. He will live opposite all of his brothers."
16:13She
called the name of Yahweh who spoke to her, "You are a God who
sees," for she said, "Have I even stayed alive after seeing
him?" 16:14Therefore the
well was called Beer-lahai-roi. Behold, it is
between Kadesh and Bered.
Doesn't Genesis 16:13 clearly state that it was Yahweh who spoke to Hagar? Don't 16:7, 9, 10 and 11 clearly state that the person Hagar saw and spoke with was the angel of Yahweh? Didn't Hagar understand that she had dealt with the Mighty One? Isn't the person whom Hagar met and spoke with both the angel of Yahweh and Yahweh? Doesn't this show that the angel of Yahweh is called Yahweh? Doesn't this imply that there are two Yahwehs, with the lesser Yahweh being a servant or messenger (angel) of the greater Yahweh? Isn't it clear that there are indeed TWO Yahwehs?
Abraham Did Not Withhold
His Son From The Angel Of Yahweh
Genesis 22:11-18 reads,
22:11The
angel of Yahweh called to him out of the sky, and said,
"Abraham, Abraham!"
He said, "Here I am."
22:12He
said, "Don’t lay your hand on the boy, neither do anything to him. For now
I know that you fear God, seeing you have not withheld your son, your only son,
from me."
22:13Abraham
lifted up his eyes, and looked, and saw that behind him was a ram caught in the
thicket by his horns. Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a
burnt offering instead of his son. 22:14Abraham
called the name of that place Yahweh-jireh. As
it is said to this day, "In Yahweh’s mountain it will be provided.
22:15The
angel of Yahweh called to Abraham a second time out of the sky, 22:16and said, "I have sworn by myself,
says Yahweh, because you have done this thing, and have not withheld your son,
your only son, 22:17that in blessing
I will bless you, and in multiplying I will multiply your seed as the stars of
the heavens, and as the sand which is on the seashore. Your seed will possess
the gate of his enemies. 22:18In
your seed will all the nations of the earth be blessed, because you have obeyed
my voice."
Doesn't 22:12 clearly show that Abraham had not withheld his son from the person who was speaking to Abraham? Wasn't the person who was speaking to Abraham the angel of Yahweh? Isn't it therefore clear that Abraham had not withheld his son from the angel of Yahweh?
The Angel Of Yahweh Is
Yahweh's Messenger Possessing Great Authority
Doesn't 22:15-18 clearly show the angel of Yahweh quoting Yahweh his master, seeing he said that Yahweh had sworn by himself whatever it was that he had sworn concerning Abraham? Doesn't this passage reveal that the angel of Yahweh was indeed acting as Yahweh's messenger, yet possessing great authority himself, seeing he commanded Abraham with the command to kill his son, and then withheld him?
Yahweh, The Mighty One Of
Abraham And Isaac, Spoke To Jacob
Genesis 28:10-22 reads,
28:10Jacob
went out from Beersheba, and went toward Haran. 28:11He
came to a certain place, and stayed there all night, because the sun had set.
He took one of the stones of the place, and put it under his head, and lay down
in that place to sleep. 28:12He
dreamed. Behold, a stairway set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to
heaven. Behold, the angels of God ascending and descending on it. 28:13Behold, Yahweh stood above it, and said,
"I am Yahweh, the God of Abraham your father, and the God of Isaac.
The land whereon you lie, to you will I give it, and to your seed. 28:14Your seed will be as the dust of the
earth, and you will spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the
north, and to the south. In you and in your seed will all the families of the
earth be blessed. 28:15Behold, I
am with you, and will keep you, wherever you go, and will bring you again into
this land. For I will not leave you, until I have done that which I have spoken
of to you."
28:16Jacob
awakened out of his sleep, and he said, "Surely Yahweh is in this place,
and I didn’t know it." 28:17He
was afraid, and said, "How dreadful is this place! This is none other than
God’s house, and this is the gate of heaven."
28:18Jacob
rose up early in the morning, and took the stone that he had put under his
head, and set it up for a pillar, and poured oil on the top of it. 28:19He called the name of that place Bethel,
but the name of the city was Luz at the first. 28:20Jacob
vowed a vow, saying, "If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way
that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and clothing to put on, 28:21so that I come again to my father’s house
in peace, and Yahweh will be my God, 28:22then
this stone, which I have set up for a pillar, will be God’s house. Of all that
you will give me I will surely give the tenth to you."
Isn't it clear from 28:13 that it was Yahweh who spoke to Jacob, Yahweh who is the Mighty One of Abraham and the Mighty One of Isaac?
Jacob Clearly Understood
That The Mighty One Of Abraham And Isaac Is The Angel Of Yahweh Called Yahweh
Genesis 31:1-13 reads,
31:1He
heard the words of Laban’s sons, saying, "Jacob has taken away all that
was our father’s. From that which was our father’s, has he gotten all this
wealth." 31:2Jacob saw the
expression on Laban’s face, and, behold, it was not toward him as before. 31:3Yahweh said to Jacob, "Return to the
land of your fathers, and to your relatives, and I will be with you."
31:4Jacob
sent and called Rachel and Leah to the field to his flock, 31:5and said to them, "I see the
expression on your father’s face, that it is not toward me as before; but the
God of my father has been with me. 31:6You
know that I have served your father with all of my strength. 31:7Your father has deceived me, and changed my
wages ten times, but God didn’t allow him to hurt me. 31:8If he said this, ‘The speckled will be your
wages,’ then all the flock bore speckled. If he said this, ‘The streaked will
be your wages,’ then all the flock bore streaked. 31:9Thus
God has taken away the cattle of your father, and given them to me. 31:10It happened at the time that the flock
conceive, that I lifted up my eyes, and saw in a dream, and behold, the male
goats which leaped on the flock were streaked, speckled, and grizzled. 31:11The angel of God said to me in the dream,
‘Jacob,’ and I said, ‘Here I am.’ 31:12He
said, ‘Now lift up your eyes, and behold, all the male goats which leap on
the flock are streaked, speckled, and grizzled, for I have seen all that Laban
does to you. 31:13I am the God of
Bethel, where you anointed a pillar, where you vowed a vow to me. Now arise,
get out from this land, and return to the land of your birth."
Doesn't 31:3 clearly state that Yahweh commanded Jacob to return to the land of his fathers? Doesn't 31:11 say that the person who spoke to Jacob in the dream was the angel of the Mighty One? Doesn't 31:13 show that the angel of the Mighty One identified himself to Jacob as the Mighty One of Bethel? Doesn't 28:13 show that the Mighty One of Bethel is indeed Yahweh, the Mighty One of Abraham and the Mighty One of Isaac? Isn't it therefore clear that the angel of Yahweh is called Yahweh? Isn't it therefore clear that the angel of Yahweh is the Mighty One of Abraham and the Mighty One of Isaac? Isn't it also clear that he is also called the angel of Mighty One?
There Are TWO Individuals
Both Called Yahweh And Both Referred To As Mighty One
Don't these several scriptures show that there are two separate individuals both called Yahweh and both referred to as Mighty One? Isn't the angel of Yahweh servant to the greater Yahweh? Isn't the angel of the Mighty One servant to the greater Mighty One?
Israel Clearly Understood
That The Angel Of Yahweh Is Mighty One
Genesis 48:15-16 reads,
48:15He
blessed Joseph, and said, "The God before whom my fathers Abraham and
Isaac did walk, the God who has fed me all my life long to this day, 48:16the angel who has redeemed me from all
evil, bless the lads, and let my name be named on them, and the name of my
fathers Abraham and Isaac. Let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the
earth."
Didn't Israel clearly understand that the Mighty One before whom his father Abraham and Isaac walked was the same angel who redeemed him from all evil? Doesn't this clearly show that Israel understood that the angel of Yahweh was also Mighty One and also called Yahweh?
There Are TWO Yahwehs, With
One Yahweh Greater Than The Other Yahweh
Haven't the scriptures examined above clearly shown that there are indeed TWO Yahweh's, with one Yahweh greater than the other? Isn't the lesser Yahweh also called the angel of Yahweh, seeing he is messenger (angel) or servant to the greater Yahweh?
The Lesser Yahweh Is The
Future Messianic Ruler Over Israel
Going back to Ezekiel 34, isn't it now clearly seen that there is indeed no contradiction in there being ONE shepherd over Israel, despite this one shepherd being referred to by two different names - Yahweh and David, the servant of Yahweh? Seeing that there are TWO Yahwehs, with the lesser Yahweh the servant of the greater Yahweh, isn't it now seen that the future Messianic ruler over all earthly nations is the lesser Yahweh, the servant of the greater Yahweh? Isn't the lesser Yahweh also called David, and also called Shiloh? Isn't it clear that the future Messianic ruler is Yahweh, the Mighty One of Abraham, Isaac and Israel, also called the angel of Yahweh, and David, the servant of Yahweh?
This is the future Messianic ruler, NOT David son of Jesse!
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